Question for the IBT.Can we see the numbers local by local for the UPS contract vote?

[JT67]

Honest question we don’t want to go to TDU for these numbers but they aren’t out. And TDU doesn’t even have them. What’s going on?

[Jazzman]

Honest question we don’t want to go to TDU for these numbers but they aren’t out. And TDU doesn’t even have them. What’s going on?

I agree. What is the point of all the secrecy? The contract has been voted and overwhelmingly ratified, lets see the Local by Local breakdown.

[Faust]

O'Brien didn't release any numbers on the ABF or TForce vote.

He will not release local by local results either.

[JT67]

If the new ibt truly wants the membership to vote they would have some transparency and show the numbers. Who’s in charge again. Dennis Taylor Ken Hall and Hoffa or the so called bigger faster stronger OZ transparency guys. Come on, share our information. We voted.

[JT67]

O'Brien didn't release any numbers on the ABF or TForce vote.

He will not release local by local results either.

We need to make noise here then. I will admit. I’m not your biggest fan. But you have a way of getting under their skin. We need to not let this die here until we get these numbers. If you think about it its bullshit.

[Magruder]

"So maybe the numbers don't add up. The vote in the south was hard to believe" I've heard these statements already. This is the kind of trust issue you create when you hide things. The OZ boys are paranoid about everything. Hard to have a functioning democracy when its mired in secrecy and paranoia.

[JT67]

Does anyone know if TDU will release these numbers.

[Thisischange?]

Does anyone know if TDU will release these numbers.
NO!

[Wiggy]

Honest question we don’t want to go to TDU for these numbers but they aren’t out. And TDU doesn’t even have them. What’s going on?

"Can we see the numbers local by local for the UPS contract vote?"
NO!

[JT67]

"Can we see the numbers local by local for the UPS contract vote?"
NO!

It’s unacceptable. that we can’t have the numbers local by local. This is leading me to believe that something doesn’t add up. Maybe someone should protest the vote count and that they seem to be covering up the percentages and something with the ability to have a Members phone number and you can send them unlimited ballots. There has to be a way to defeat a system like that. So I think there’s got to be some kind of merit to being able to protest this vote count.

[working396]

It’s unacceptable. that we can’t have the numbers local by local. This is leading me to believe that something doesn’t add up. Maybe someone should protest the vote count and that they seem to be covering up the percentages and something with the ability to have a Members phone number and you can send them unlimited ballots. There has to be a way to defeat a system like that. So I think there’s got to be some kind of merit to being able to protest this vote count.

After the votes were announced I think most people just accepted the totals. I've never had a reason to doubt them before, they could save themselves some trouble by releasing the local by local numbers.

[Thisischange?]

After the votes were announced I think most people just accepted the totals. I've never had a reason to doubt them before, they could save themselves some trouble by releasing the local by local numbers.

Don't worry the IBT's TDU branch is on this as always.Love the coalition. It's working out great.

[Gimme_Danger]

https://teamster.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/2023_UPS_Vote_Ratification_by_Local_Union.pdf

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Thanks for posting!

[JT67]

https://teamster.org/wp-content/uplo...ocal_Union.pdf

Thanks for getting this for us