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  • OT+
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 2369

    #1

    Teamsters to UPS: Give us You Last Best and Final

    ​ Give us your Final Offer
  • Davis
    Member
    • May 2023
    • 57

    #2

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    • Nickjamesups
      Nickjamesups commented
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      UPS STATEMENT

      Last week, we provided our initial economic proposal. This week we followed with a significantly amended proposal to address key demands from the Teamsters. Reaching consensus requires time and serious, detailed discussion, but it also requires give-and-take from both sides. We’re working around the clock to reach an agreement that strengthens our industry-leading pay and benefits ahead of the current contract’s expiration on August 1. We remain at the table ready to negotiate.


      “ Significantly amended proposal “. Why have we not seen this ?

    • ReadytoStrike
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      Nickjamesups 💯
  • OT+
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 2369

    #3
    Statement on UPS negotiations by IBT 6-28-23.


    (WASHINGTON) – Today, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters walked away from the national bargaining table and officially demanded UPS exchange its last, best, and final offer no later than June 30.

    The Teamsters gave UPS a one-week notice on Tuesday to act responsibly and exchange a stronger economic proposal for more than 340,000 full- and part-time workers. UPS executives couldn’t make it one more day without insulting and ignoring union leaders and rank-and-filers as negotiations resumed on Wednesday.

    Despite the Teamsters having reached consensus on 55 non-economic issues with the company on June 19, UPS has continued to seek a cost-neutral contract during economic negotiations. The world’s largest delivery company that raked in more than $100 billion in revenue last year has made it clear to its union workforce that it has no desire to reward or respectfully compensate UPS Teamsters for their labor and sacrifice. During the past week, UPS returned an appalling counterproposal to the union’s financial package, offering miniscule raises and wage cuts to traditional cost-of-living adjustments.

    “The largest single-employer strike in American history now appears inevitable,” said Teamsters General President Sean M. O’Brien. “Executives at UPS, some of whom get tens of millions of dollars a year, do not care about the hundreds of thousands of American workers who make this company run. They don’t care about our members’ families. UPS doesn’t want to pay up. Their actions and insults at the bargaining table have proven they are just another corporation that wants to keep all the money at the top. Working people who bust their asses every single day do not matter, not to UPS.”

    With a deadline of Friday to return a last, best, and final offer, UPS risks putting itself on strike by August 1 and causing devastating disruptions to the supply chain in the U.S. and other parts of the world. Teamsters nationwide overwhelmingly authorized a strike this month by 97 percent should UPS fail to come to terms on a new contract. UPS’s impending failure is one step closer to reality and has the potential to affect nearly all Americans.

    “We have an economy today that is reliant on parcel delivery and no one in the game handles more packages per day or provides better service than Teamsters at UPS. Our members are fighting for a post-pandemic agreement that honors the sacrifices they made to keep this country moving during the last several years,” said Teamsters General Secretary-Treasurer Fred Zuckerman. “Time has run out for UPS to give workers that honorable contract. The Teamsters repeatedly told the company from the beginning of this process that there would be no extensions. But UPS has sat on its hands and chosen to turn its back on these workers. Come August 1, it’s going to be damn hard for UPS to ignore us any longer.”

    The Teamsters met with UPS negotiators late into Tuesday night over Article 34 of the union’s National Master Agreement, governing health and welfare and pension benefits for members. Despite early progress, UPS attempted to move the goalposts at the 11th hour and withhold any additional benefits from the Teamsters, seeking concessionary language instead.

    When the Teamsters walked away from the table, UPS agreed to resume negotiations on Wednesday. When corporate executives showed up, they only resubmitted the same proposal for worker concessions under Article 34. Founded in 1903, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters represents 1.2 million hardworking people in the U.S., Canada, and Puerto Rico. Visit Teamster.org for more information. Follow us on Twitter @Teamsters and “like” us on Facebook at Facebook.com/teamsters.

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    • DanaCos
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2023
      • 992

      #4
      Why are the Teamsters begging for a last, final and best offer?

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      • Nights
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 117

        #5
        Seems like an odd time to walk away. I'm wondering if this was a committee decision. Hopefully this is all part of the plan.

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        • Jazzman
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2023
          • 113

          #6
          Originally posted by Nights
          Seems like an odd time to walk away. I'm wondering if this was a committee decision. Hopefully this is all part of the plan.
          Seems odd for the union to demand a Final at this point with lots of time before expiration, because it is unprecedented. We have to assume based on the companies leaked first offer that the parties are far apart, this would usually be the time to work on getting as close as possible to a deal so that if we have to strike we're that much closer to achieving our goals. You have to be at the table to make that happen.

          This move strengthens the case for those who believe 1) a deal has been cut already or 2) leadership believes we must have a strike and is proceeding accordingly.

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          • Nickjamesups
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 366

            #7
            What seems odd to me is that the members have seen next to nothing this entire campaign and they buy the hype ! Why has no one demanded to see the proposals ?
            NDA’s ? Non disclosure? To the members ?
            TDU used to call this a BROWN OUT .

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            • Gimliboston9
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2023
              • 320

              #8
              The reason TDU isn’t screaming about a brownout is because they are part of the plan ! Can anyone imagine that TDU would become exactly what they opposed for decades ?

              Paff must be so proud ! He finally got his seat at the table .

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              • Thisischange?
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2023
                • 676

                #9
                Originally posted by Nickjamesups
                What seems odd to me is that the members have seen next to nothing this entire campaign and they buy the hype ! Why has no one demanded to see the proposals ?
                NDA’s ? Non disclosure? To the members ?
                TDU used to call this a BROWN OUT .
                TDU is a wholly owned subsiduary of the OZ PR machine. They are being punked like a jailhouse punk. It's time for someone else to fill the void. Apparently truth telling and transparency are not part of the plan anymore.

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                • JT67
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 243

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Jazzman

                  Seems odd for the union to demand a Final at this point with lots of time before expiration, because it is unprecedented. We have to assume based on the companies leaked first offer that the parties are far apart, this would usually be the time to work on getting as close as possible to a deal so that if we have to strike we're that much closer to achieving our goals. You have to be at the table to make that happen.

                  This move strengthens the case for those who believe 1) a deal has been cut already or 2) leadership believes we must have a strike and is proceeding accordingly.
                  You are on to something

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                  • JT67
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2023
                    • 243

                    #11
                    Originally posted by Nickjamesups
                    What seems odd to me is that the members have seen next to nothing this entire campaign and they buy the hype ! Why has no one demanded to see the proposals ?
                    NDA’s ? Non disclosure? To the members ?
                    TDU used to call this a BROWN OUT .
                    TDU is practically in charge now. TDU loves everything about this. This whole campaign seems like TDU.

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                    • Teamster4Life
                      Member
                      • Apr 2023
                      • 68

                      #12
                      Hard to imagine how you justify a strike with all the TA's, including Louisville and NorCal, that the IBT is bragging about.. It can't be a ULP strike and you know UPS will throw money at voters. Yet the media is falling for it, I'm saying no strike. It would be important to see the language but we'll probably get a summary like ABF.

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                      • Faust
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2023
                        • 910

                        #13
                        Originally posted by Teamster4Life
                        Hard to imagine how you justify a strike with all the TA's, including Louisville and NorCal, that the IBT is bragging about.. It can't be a ULP strike and you know UPS will throw money at voters. Yet the media is falling for it, I'm saying no strike. It would be important to see the language but we'll probably get a summary like ABF.
                        The ABF does not look good. Word is at least the Western Supplement and two in the East Coast were rejected.

                        Some are saying the national was rejected others that it passed.

                        Soon enough we will find out!

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                        • JT67
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2023
                          • 243

                          #14
                          Originally posted by Faust

                          The ABF does not look good. Word is at least the Western Supplement and two in the East Coast were rejected.

                          Some are saying the national was rejected others that it passed.

                          Soon enough we will find out!
                          I heard unofficially that two supplements got voted down and the National passed.

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