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  • OT+
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 2378

    #1

    ALU Affiliates with Teamsters

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    ALU Affiliates with Teamsters
  • Faust
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 911

    #2
    What was Chris Smalls offered?

    He was bound to lose the upcoming ALU election.

    Does this mean he replaces the do nothing half a million dollar man Randy Korgan as Amazon Director?

    LMFAO!!!

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    • Thisischange?
      Thisischange? commented
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      Is this the guy that runs a huge local in California, draws a salary from his joint council, draws a salary from local 63, runs the Amazon division for free, and only makes a half Mill. What would possibly contain our excitement about the possibilities here? He came to run 1932 after an IBT trusteeship.What happens in 2 years when the IBT trustee's the ALU in accordance with the terms of this agreement? Buyer beware......
  • Tracy
    Member
    • Jul 2023
    • 24

    #3
    Does anyone know if they mean just the warehouse in Staten Island, JFK8 i think, or all the places ALU was trying to organize?

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    • Nickjamesups
      Nickjamesups commented
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      Good question!

    • The Direct Line
      The Direct Line commented
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      Just the JFK8 warehouse. I know the Amazon air hub KCVG in Northern Kentucky is also looking into affiliating with the Teamsters.
  • OT+
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 2378

    #4
    Comments from the IBT announcement:

    Teamsters on X BREAKING NEWS The Amazon Labor Union has formally affiliated with the 1.3 million-member strong Teamsters Unio (2).jpg
    Teamsters on X BREAKING NEWS The Amazon Labor Union has formally affiliated with the 1.3 million-member strong Teamsters Unio.jpg

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    • Tracy
      Member
      • Jul 2023
      • 24

      #5
      The post you're looking for could not be found or may have been deleted.

      SCOOP: Rank-and-file Amazon workers still have to ratify the agreement Chris Smalls, president of the Amazon Labor Union, and Sean O’Brien, president of the Teamsters, signed to affiliate the ALU with the IBT. Union leadership elections will be held as planned. Agreement below!

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      • OT+
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 2378

        #6
        Teamsters (@Teamsters) X (1).jpg
        Chris Smalls announcement

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        • teamsterdriver25
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2023
          • 175

          #7
          It's a good start. I hope it's successful. MixMax sounds like someone's little errand boy.

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          • OT+
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 2378

            #8
            The Amazon Labor Union, a grassroots labor group that won a major victory at an Amazon warehouse two years ago, has agreed to affiliate with the Teamsters union, a move that’s bound to inject new energy into

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            • Michelle_Valentin_Nieves
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2024
              • 3

              #9
              Hello my name is Michelle Valentin Nieves I am the current Vice President of the ALU who has publicly dissented from Christian smalls “leadership” I would like to know who gave you all the authority to announce affiliation without the communication or ratification of our 8k members out in Staten Island ?

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              • Watcher745
                Watcher745 commented
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                Do you have a lawyer? If not perhaps you need to speak with one. Welcome sister.

              • Gus
                Gus commented
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                Welcome !!!

              • The Direct Line
                The Direct Line commented
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                Hello sister.
                Thank you for being here
            • Faust
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2023
              • 911

              #10
              Originally posted by Michelle_Valentin_Nieves
              Hello my name is Michelle Valentin Nieves I am the current Vice President of the ALU who has publicly dissented from Christian smalls “leadership” I would like to know who gave you all the authority to announce affiliation without the communication or ratification of our 8k members out in Staten Island ?
              Why would Chris Smalls agree to this without consulting the executive board?

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              • teamsterdriver25
                teamsterdriver25 commented
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                I don't think I want Sweety to be in any leadership roll in my Union. We have enough outsiders in leadership positions.

              • DanaCos
                DanaCos commented
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                Lol.... I think the statement and question is misdirected and was misunderstood. I think she is on the side of right. I got a phone call and was set straight.
            • Watcher745
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2023
              • 131

              #11
              Does Smalls have the authority to agree without a vote of the members ?

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              • The Direct Line
                The Direct Line commented
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                The JFK rank-and-file will vote on this, so there is no ratified agreement as of yet. By all indications, this agreement will pass.
            • Knucklehead
              Member
              • Mar 2024
              • 24

              #12
              He probably needs a majority of the Exec Bd but you have to have a document on which the rank and file can vote. My suspicion is the ALU is broke and falling apart. My sense is IBT Amazon leaders have talked a big game, mostly for 2022 pol. purposes, but on the ground, coordinated activities are far and few between. If youre organizers have a mostly been fired over 2 years nd new crew lacks leadership, this kind of "campaign" goes nowhere fast. It's called burning cash to make smoke with no fire ever coming.
              Might explain why Ms Nieves is here, barking up the wrong tree, and not comprehending the process. Check your by laws please. Bigger issue is No real leadership on Amazon from Division or higher up on the food chain. Then again, We’re just a bunch of ex-reformers who like to question and complain so what do we know?
              All I know we have no members at Amazon, kind of like the Port Division bluster that Carey and Hoffa funded as pet projects for their "leaders", mostly for folks who were loyal, needed a check, but not capable of real change. Low expectations. And yes, all that was done for decades to the tune of tens of millions of dues dollars that never went anywhere other than into PR and maybe a few headlines. Ask current leadership how many Port members we have? Chasing owner-operators is a waste of time just like a generic Amazon campaign is. Highly targeted, regional efforts could work but that takes a ton of time and analysis. For what? A couple hundred represented workers after 5 years?

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              • Pasco
                Pasco commented
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                Someone who clearly knows what their talking about... good post.
            • OT+
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2023
              • 2378

              #13
              ALU Democratic Reform Caucus is one of the candidate slates runnuing in the Amazon Labor Union election.

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              • Gimme_Danger
                Gimme_Danger commented
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                Great statement, seems like both factions are on the same page on this issue for the larger goal of organizing Amazon workers.
            • Michelle_Valentin_Nieves
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2024
              • 3

              #14
              To answer everyone’s question as simply as possible our constitution and By laws were drafted very poorly it basically gave Supreme power to the President , I became a dissident of the current leadership due to neglect of the Unions day to day operations and a slew of other grievances the other 2 officers formed an Alliance with the President and I was Ousted with a failed attempt to illegally remove me without a basis of charges or due process this was 8 months ago since then the Union spiraled into debt along with my “ removal” the executive board was also illegally disbanded over a zoom call in attempts by the President to assume ALL POWER with all this happening also Elections are taking place Connor Spence is running and so am I we both have our own slates and our own committees which we plan to UNITE after elections we have been fighting tooth and nail for a Union in JFK8 for over 3 years I have personally been at JFK8 for 5 years and still work there Connor was fired almost 6 months ago he has also expressed that the announcements was premature seeing as it hasn’t been communicated nor ratified with the membership but that is technically Christian Smalls responsibility not IBTs just another symptom of having an incompetent person in the position of President thank you to those who welcome me this will be an interesting new Journey for Amazon Warehouse workers nation wide .

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              • Moyama
                Moyama commented
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                Welcome Michelle, Teamsters fight like cats and dogs but we all want Amazon organized and we'll all fight for a strong contract.

              • WTF891
                WTF891 commented
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                Welcome Sister, we are wth you all!

              • sammo1245
                sammo1245 commented
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                Sister, welcome to the Teamsters. Your comments include several concerns for the Teamsters as well ALU.

                Is the IBT swallowing the ALU wholly, or will it remain a semi autonomous group, like the communications workers or BLET?

                Will the members be Teamsters or ALU members, affiliated to the Teamsters Union?

                You mention the financial issues at the ALU, is the IBT bailing out the ALU?

                What kind of position has Smalls negotiated for himself?

                Finally, sister you will soon find out the IBT is very hostile to reformers and activist. The IBT expects 100% support for their plan, even when its not a good plan. Those of us that question their 0lan or their motives are targeted.
            • UPS909Strong
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2023
              • 283

              #15
              Originally posted by Michelle_Valentin_Nieves
              To answer everyone’s question as simply as possible our constitution and By laws were drafted very poorly it basically gave Supreme power to the President , I became a dissident of the current leadership due to neglect of the Unions day to day operations and a slew of other grievances the other 2 officers formed an Alliance with the President and I was Ousted with a failed attempt to illegally remove me without a basis of charges or due process this was 8 months ago since then the Union spiraled into debt along with my “ removal” the executive board was also illegally disbanded over a zoom call in attempts by the President to assume ALL POWER with all this happening also Elections are taking place Connor Spence is running and so am I we both have our own slates and our own committees which we plan to UNITE after elections we have been fighting tooth and nail for a Union in JFK8 for over 3 years I have personally been at JFK8 for 5 years and still work there Connor was fired almost 6 months ago he has also expressed that the announcements was premature seeing as it hasn’t been communicated nor ratified with the membership but that is technically Christian Smalls responsibility not IBTs just another symptom of having an incompetent person in the position of President thank you to those who welcome me this will be an interesting new Journey for Amazon Warehouse workers nation wide .
              Welcome Michelle

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