​​​​​​​Perrone 804: Open letter to Carol Tome

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  • OT+
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
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    ​​​​​​​Perrone 804: Open letter to Carol Tome

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    ​​​​​​​Perrone 804: Open letter to Carol Tome
  • Nickjamesups
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 264

    #2
    Isn’t Perrone Eastern Region UPS director? He has 30 years with UPS and he is surprised at their indifference to our members? Didn’t he just negotiate this historic contract? Was there no discussion of automation?

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    • DanaCos
      DanaCos commented
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      No worries. Hector Fortes has his back. lol
  • DanaCos
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 970

    #3
    It's called a "Historic Contract" Vinny! Stop whining about what you agreed to. Just like here at 623. We had full-time members working 3.5 hours a day at Oregon Ave. while part timers weren't affected. It was said it was in the contract. They brought them to PHL during peak full-time then sent them back to Oregon Ave at the same 3.5 hours a day. People's mortgages weren't getting paid and car notes got put on the back burner. These people settled the grievance the first time during the peak season. They still didn't get back pay. They settled another one and who knows when they will get paid.

    Who negotiated the supplements or at least had a voice in them? Ask the Principal Officers of every local who got stung! This whole automation thing was known since at least 2017. The union didn't object to all this. There is no one else to blame. The company even admits they made sure the contract was ironclad in order to stick it the Teamsters. It's called incompetence.

    HEY VINNY! Tell everyone the story about your hands in the fish tank when Sean O'Brien called. Classic.

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    • DanaCos
      DanaCos commented
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      *BTW.... gotta love these love letters to UPS. Like it's going to matter. lol

    • Anonymous1
      Anonymous1 commented
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      It doesn’t matter , this does nothing and he endorsed this contract that allows the company to use the technology to eliminate positions . If that’s not true then explain that to the members displaced and laid off
  • DanaCos
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 970

    #4
    Originally posted by Nickjamesups
    Isn’t Perrone Eastern Region UPS director? He has 30 years with UPS and he is surprised at their indifference to our members? Didn’t he just negotiate this historic contract? Was there no discussion of automation?
    Was there no discussion? Sure was. 2017 before the last contract in 2018 and 2023 after this contract was signed and delivered.

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    • Hiway80
      Member
      • Jan 2023
      • 56

      #5
      The technology language was one of the first TA's in the new contract. We were told AI and Robotics had been stopped now work is being diverted. Peronne was at the table if we didn't get protections we needed he should have been a no vote. He attacked anyone opposed to the contract and now the company was given five years to cut jobs. Letters like this are weak and accomplish nothing.

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      • TheMilitantTeamster
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 396

        #6
        lol this fool — but Ben Vedus said ITOC’s rank and file petition against mass layoffs shift closures was worthless; I guess Perrone’s letter will be more effective!

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        • DanaCos
          DanaCos commented
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          Funny how they are blaming the company now. They knew this was coming and they cared more about their images than the members that pay their salaries.

        • Anonymous1
          Anonymous1 commented
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          His letter is only meant to fluff the members nothing more

        • Thisischange?
          Thisischange? commented
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          Nothing more than a high priced fl**fer.

        • TheMilitantTeamster
          TheMilitantTeamster commented
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          Yes, Dana exactly what I thought oh it’s UPS “enforcement” of contract lol these idiots historical!!!
      • Mr. Teamster
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2023
        • 324

        #7
        Originally posted by TheMilitantTeamster
        lol this fool — but Ben Vedus said ITOC’s rank and file petition against mass layoffs shift closures was worthless; I guess Perrone’s letter will be more effective!
        His letter and your petition are both worthless.

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        • Thisischange?
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2023
          • 489

          #8
          Originally posted by Mr. Teamster

          His letter and your petition are both worthless.
          Whats next no stewards? That's some powerfull shit.

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          • Nickjamesups
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 264

            #9
            His strange letter is much like his other attempts at sarcasm, his cartoon posts of management people, his childish and unprofessional name calling while he is immune from retaliation yet the members are left to fend for themselves. He is modeling himself in the same persona of who he has called “ the greatest general president “ the teamsters ever had. I’m sorry , which local is he from?

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            • DanaCos
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2023
              • 970

              #10
              Originally posted by Nickjamesups
              His strange letter is much like his other attempts at sarcasm, his cartoon posts of management people, his childish and unprofessional name calling while he is immune from retaliation yet the members are left to fend for themselves. He is modeling himself in the same persona of who he has called “ the greatest general president “ the teamsters ever had. I’m sorry , which local is he from?
              Exactly. When I first met him, we had a discussion and I told him I refused to support their slate because it had all the people I exposed on it. Then he went straight in to a fish tank story. I gave him a pass. I normally would have a camera in his face. I told him that he was the last I suspected to join such a slate but then again when the Vote No Movement got it's start, he never said a word about voting no. Just posted pictures (painted fingernails etc.) and about how much he hated management. After our discussion, he went on to tell people how much of a lunatic I am. I will give him some credit. He did come out against signing an NDA.

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              • TheMilitantTeamster
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2023
                • 396

                #11
                Originally posted by Mr. Teamster

                His letter and your petition are both worthless.
                At the least the petition put pressure on the local and yes they did feel the heat and got some people back by telling management to shorten hours in twilight! The petition was never the point as Tony has said, it was a statement of a position from the members who have been betrayed by leadership and want more, and it’s been good at getting information out about the layoffs and getting people involved. Not sure what Perrone’s letter will do

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                • Anonymous1
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2023
                  • 2

                  #12
                  Pretty sure Carol chuckled at that letter or one of her assistants deleted it.. lol he thinks he’s a big shot ???

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                  • killAInow
                    Member
                    • Jun 2023
                    • 14

                    #13
                    Originally posted by Anonymous1
                    Pretty sure Carol chuckled at that letter or one of her assistants deleted it.. lol he thinks he’s a big shot ???
                    She should take him up on his offer to go to Maspeth. She can explain to the members that the contract Perrone recommended will result in the loss of one out of three jobs to robots at UPS. Historic fail.

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                    • Anonymous1
                      Anonymous1 commented
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                      Wonder if he will act like Mr Tough guy and insult her like he does on Facebook ? . They diverted
                      Their own funds to make it look like they got the best contract ever and no language to protect jobs from automation. Historic indeed for a guy who makes 300k in total compensation
                  • DanaCos
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 970

                    #14
                    Historic!!!!

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                    • Hiway80
                      Member
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 56

                      #15
                      What bothers me most about this letter is its an attempt to take no responsiblity, from the guy leading negotiations for the union in the east. Less then a year ago he was at the table to deal with the quality of life and automation issues he's now talking about in his open letter. Why the rush to settle if these things were'nt taken care of? What's surprising is that he's writing a letter like this in the first place, hardly worthy of the Local of Ron Carey.

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