Will TDU members make motion to oust David Levin from leadership?

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  • Faust
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 766

    Will TDU members make motion to oust David Levin from leadership?

    Many upset TDUers have expressed their anger against both David Levin and Ken Paff.

    Some have talked about removing Levin as the head of TDU. Note that Levin has never been a rank-and-file member.

    After making the mistake of endorsing OZ and this concessionary UPS contract that was nowhere near the $30 billion O'Brien claimed, will the members finally remove Levin?

    Voting out Ken Paff from the ISC would be a bonus.

    *Since endorsing OZ, Ken Paff has become an international traveler. This year he went snorkeling in the Caribbean and a couple weeks ago went on a safari to Tanzania.

    I wonder who paying for those expensive trips?
  • DanaCos
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 970

    #2
    Are we ever going to find out Ken's salary since our e-board's was held up for scrutiny for so many years by him? I guess we won't see any articles about Fred Zuckerman's HUGE jump in pay. Heard Paff is living large since moving to California.

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    • JT67
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2023
      • 235

      #3
      TDU from what i heard has a lot of new money coming in from their majority UPS members. Most other crafts wont give anything to TDU because they know they only care about UPS members. Levin has an office at the IBT now and can come and go as he pleases. A lot of long time members have left TDU.

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      • Bob Randall
        Bob Randall commented
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        Whoa! Not true? Hard time believing that one.
    • JZuraw
      Moderator
      • Jan 2023
      • 52

      #4
      The Union is better off with a compromised TDU than with no TDU.

      Paff was paid peanuts for decades; Levin makes peanuts.

      I have differences with both of them, but they don't call the shots anywhere in the Union.

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      • AlJackson1962!
        AlJackson1962! commented
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        Brother:
        Levin is a member of Local 25, O'Brien's home local. How is that possible? I won't reiterate how TDU under Levin (and Paff - although he seems far removed in daily IBT activities) has abandoned its core principles. O'Brien, when he broke with Hoffa with his open letter to members, complained about non-Teamsters running the IBT. More hypocrisy. More unfathomable betrayals.

      • Bob Randall
        Bob Randall commented
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        What craft is he working in?
    • Jazzman
      Member
      • Mar 2023
      • 89

      #5
      Originally posted by JZuraw
      The Union is better off with a compromised TDU than with no TDU.

      Paff was paid peanuts for decades; Levin makes peanuts.

      I have differences with both of them, but they don't call the shots anywhere in the Union.
      "Compromised" is a good way to say it. Another way would be "abandonment of founding principles" making them a part of the problem.

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      • Thisischange?
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 489

        #6
        Originally posted by Jazzman

        "Compromised" is a good way to say it. Another way would be "abandonment of founding principles" making them a part of the problem.
        It was brilliant on Seanie boy's part a comprimised TDU and no opposition. This does not bode well for the members.

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        • DanaCos
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2023
          • 970

          #7
          The truth is unraveling. People will learn about David Levin and Sean O'Brien being a partnership and not people who care about the membership.


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          • Thisischange?
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 489

            #8
            I'm sure the know it all Kerwood will. He would never bow to Paff and Levin. He's busy promoting non factual bullshit on the internet with his buddy from Georgia the Roswell twins.

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            • Faust
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2023
              • 766

              #9
              Originally posted by Thisischange?
              I'm sure the know it all Kerwood will. He would never bow to Paff and Levin. He's busy promoting non factual bullshit on the internet with his buddy from Georgia the Roswell twins.
              The fluffy twins that were kicked to the curve by O'Brien!

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              • JT67
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2023
                • 235

                #10
                Originally posted by Faust

                The fluffy twins that were kicked to the curve by O'Brien!
                O’Brien treated both like they were scabs and they still don’t say anything against him. They are some real punks.

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                • Faust
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2023
                  • 766

                  #11
                  Originally posted by JT67

                  O’Brien treated both like they were scabs and they still don’t say anything against him. They are some real punks.
                  Funny is TDU steering committee members have contacted Teamsterlink upset with the direction O'Brien has taken the union and unhappy with David Levin. The problem is that they are not yet willing to leave TDU. Some of these guys were promised jobs with the IBT to flip and were never delivered after OZ won.

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                  • DanaCos
                    DanaCos commented
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                    Amazing how promises are made and never kept after a slate wins. It happened here at Local 623 multiple times. I can only laugh at people's vulnerabilities.

                  • Faust
                    Faust commented
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                    How can anyone who claims to be a reformer sellout for a job?

                    Got word that tool Sean Orr was also promised a job and never materialized.

                  • DanaCos
                    DanaCos commented
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                    How do you think I feel? I did all that work on the Vote No and friends stabbed me in the back. Ron Venit stepped in and announced he was starting a slate based on the Vote No. He never once offered a hand with the movement. Then the following cycle, Richard Hooker started a Vote No Movement when the contract wasn't even being talked about. When I asked what he was voting no on, he said he didn't know yet. Then he went on to distribute Vote No shirts with his name on it. He voted yes on the past contract by the way. There was also a guy that Hooker asked to run Independent against someone to take votes away from another. There were some promises made there too. AND, he continues to say he HATES politics. You should hear all the promises made in my Local.

                  • JT67
                    JT67 commented
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                    I’ve seen that guy Dana. He seems to good to be true. Like everything is for show. Does he pack any punch or is he just all about the social issues?
                • DanaCos
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2023
                  • 970

                  #12
                  Originally posted by JT67

                  O’Brien treated both like they were scabs and they still don’t say anything against him. They are some real punks.
                  Fluffy once said he never knew anything about the Vote No Movement. What a liar. Everyone that worked for UPS knew who and what was holding up the contract. Raises were being withheld for months. The two Youtube stars are so full of themselves they believe their own bullshit.

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                  • WTF891
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2024
                    • 282

                    #13
                    Can you smoke crack and still work as a UPS driver? Apparently the twin turds are on something.

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