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  • Debo
    Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 6

    Fact or Fiction

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  • Koldiww
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 177

    #2
    These tactics are nothing new. The theatrics of bargaining. The practice picketing is used by the SEIU and a lot of public sector unions. Not a new tactic. Now adopted by Teamsters I suppose. It makes members feel involved without having to test if they would really strike, there is no loss of income, and UPS knew it was coming. A weak union's tactic. This PR about the tough guy, and bringing UPS to their knees was simply just that, PR and BS. The outcome is going to be a ratified contract, better in some ways and worse in others, than past contracts. No magic, nothing new, and no adulation for oz like they planned on!

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    • CamiloCienfuegos
      Member
      • May 2023
      • 61

      #3
      These are just assumptions by people who are have no idea what’s really going on. Regardless, we are in much better hands now than when the likes of Hoffa and Rome Aloise ran the union into the ground giving handouts and giveaways to employers for Golden State Warriors court side seats and tickets to playboy parties. Never forget that Rome thought that Hoffa’s 2018 UPS contract was great and any critic was “picking fly shit out of the pepper.” Back then there wasn’t even an attempt to involve members in any way in any contract and Rome and company thought that was just fine.

      Rome will go down in history as one of the most corrupt Teamsters of all time, a company man who ruined the careers of his “friends” and who sold out his members for 30 pieces of silver.

      But we really shouldn’t call him a Teamster seeing as he doesn’t even know how to drive stick.

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      • Faust
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 766

        #4
        So all supplements and riders will pass next Tuesday?

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        • Barry455
          Member
          • Mar 2023
          • 71

          #5
          Getting back to the article itself I think its an accurate take , This negotiation feels completely scripted. The constitutional change allowing members to participate was a great thing but it was neutralized when everyone was forced to sign nondisclosure agreements. The NDA's made it impossible to report back to coworkers. As usual members were kept in the dark and spoon fed only official information. We were not even allowed to see our own proposals and now we're experiencing a very expensive vote yes campaign that we're paying for with our own dues money. It all feels like a well orchestrated SHAM, and when members wake up and think about it after the vote count, they'll realize we got fooled again.

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          • Faust
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 766

            #6
            Originally posted by Barry455
            Getting back to the article itself I think its an accurate take , This negotiation feels completely scripted. The constitutional change allowing members to participate was a great thing but it was neutralized when everyone was forced to sign nondisclosure agreements. The NDA's made it impossible to report back to coworkers. As usual members were kept in the dark and spoon fed only official information. We were not even allowed to see our own proposals and now we're experiencing a very expensive vote yes campaign that we're paying for with our own dues money. It all feels like a well orchestrated SHAM, and when members wake up and think about it after the vote count, they'll realize we got fooled again.
            Expect some supplements and riders to go down.

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            • BurnedbyO'Brien
              Member
              • Jan 2023
              • 77

              #7
              Originally posted by CamiloCienfuegos
              These are just assumptions by people who are have no idea what’s really going on. Regardless, we are in much better hands now than when the likes of Hoffa and Rome Aloise ran the union into the ground giving handouts and giveaways to employers for Golden State Warriors court side seats and tickets to playboy parties. Never forget that Rome thought that Hoffa’s 2018 UPS contract was great and any critic was “picking fly shit out of the pepper.” Back then there wasn’t even an attempt to involve members in any way in any contract and Rome and company thought that was just fine.

              Rome will go down in history as one of the most corrupt Teamsters of all time, a company man who ruined the careers of his “friends” and who sold out his members for 30 pieces of silver.

              But we really shouldn’t call him a Teamster seeing as he doesn’t even know how to drive stick.
              Awwww the closet Rome luster again! Can't have any conversation without him throwing in his secret lust for Rome and those tickets. Are you upset because you didn't get offered one of those tickets and possibly sit next to him and wonder if he would ever notice you?

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              • Thisischange?
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2023
                • 489

                #8
                Originally posted by BurnedbyO'Brien

                Awwww the closet Rome luster again! Can't have any conversation without him throwing in his secret lust for Rome and those tickets. Are you upset because you didn't get offered one of those tickets and possibly sit next to him and wonder if he would ever notice you?
                Maybe Rome rejected him? It was never about the girlfriend. Damn....

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                • UPS909Strong
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2023
                  • 249

                  #9
                  Rome has done more for the Teamsters than SO will ever do.

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                  • Pasco
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                    And every officer knows it, not that they'll admit it. Camilo is just afraid he'll find a way back. LOL
                • CamiloCienfuegos
                  Member
                  • May 2023
                  • 61

                  #10
                  Originally posted by UPS909Strong
                  Rome has done more for the Teamsters than SO will ever do.
                  ? ? ? rotflmao

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