What A Vote "No" Really Means

[UPS909Strong]

We keep hearing some members say that they will vote no on the tentative agreement. Let me explain to you all what would happen in a few different scenarios, none which will bring the results you want:

Scenario 1: Teamsters and Employer return to the table and move some monies around to put into pension and wages. No new money added, just shifting of nickels and dimes. Tentative agreement reached again. No strike

Scenario 2: Teamsters and Employer bring in Federal Mediator for help and Fed Mediator determines that contract can use a tiny bit of adjustment. Enough to present to the membership again. Teamsters begin a massive scare tactic campaign to get full timers to vote again in droves and make it pass. No strike

There will not be a strike. There will not be an immediate 25 dollar an hour wage for part timers. Voting no just delays the inevitable. This is a part time gig with full benefits. If you want 25 an hour, give up your benefits, become a driver or find a full time job somewhere that will give you the pay you feel that you deserve. I make over 100k a year driving at UPS. I'm telling everyone to vote "Yes". I've been able to buy a home, cars, toys and vacation. If Part Timers haven't figured out how to make 100k working at UPS, they should quit and go work at Amazon

[JT67]

A part time job with full benefits is what this job is. Anyone that works at ups long enough gets the opportunity to become a driver and after your progression, you go to top rate. Now the minimum wage at UPS is $21 an hour. Pretty close to the $25 an hour.

Working in the middle of the night sucks. I get it because i did it. Started at $8 an hour. I always worked another job and after 9 years of part time i was full time. Life got better working one job. I understand wanting to only work a part time job but you will never have enough in life working part time.

[UPS909Strong]

Amen to this

[The Direct Line]

We keep hearing some members say that they will vote no on the tentative agreement. Let me explain to you all what would happen in a few different scenarios, none which will bring the results you want:

Scenario 1: Teamsters and Employer return to the table and move some monies around to put into pension and wages. No new money added, just shifting of nickels and dimes. Tentative agreement reached again. No strike

Scenario 2: Teamsters and Employer bring in Federal Mediator for help and Fed Mediator determines that contract can use a tiny bit of adjustment. Enough to present to the membership again. Teamsters begin a massive scare tactic campaign to get full timers to vote again in droves and make it pass. No strike

There will not be a strike. There will not be an immediate 25 dollar an hour wage for part timers. Voting no just delays the inevitable. This is a part time gig with full benefits. If you want 25 an hour, give up your benefits, become a driver or find a full time job somewhere that will give you the pay you feel that you deserve. I make over 100k a year driving at UPS. I'm telling everyone to vote "Yes". I've been able to buy a home, cars, toys and vacation. If Part Timers haven't figured out how to make 100k working at UPS, they should quit and go work at Amazon

I love when people say "if you do not like it go work somewhere else". We have to just accept the fact that UPS pays poverty pay and be cool with that. Move on, nothing to fight for here.Very defeatist attitude. You know some part-timers cannot go driving for whatever their respective reasons are. So $1.50 for a part-timer with 15+ longevity is adequate.

[Thisischange?]

I love when people say "if you do not like it go work somewhere else". We have to just accept the fact that UPS pays poverty pay and be cool with that. Move on, nothing to fight for here.Very defeatist attitude. You know some part-timers cannot go driving for whatever their respective reasons are. So $1.50 for a part-timer with 15+ longevity is adequate.

I'm not sure it's defeatist as much as it's self centerist.Their existance as benefactors enjoying the pinnicale of wages and benefits is bought at the expense of those (less than). It's an existential expression of me first.God help us all if we think we can stand against this oppression bearing this attitude.

[UPS909Strong]

It's a part time job for Christ sakes. The position was made to move up or move out. The part time gig is to supplement your income from your day job. What's defeatist or self centered about understanding how working at UPS is