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  • Thisischange?
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 672

    #1

    Where is Sean?

  • Nickjamesups
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 361

    #2
    Oh yeah , we are planning the biggest strike in history but we never contacted the AFL-CIO !

    Did you ever get the feeling that the entire “ we are going to strike you !” campaign may have been all an act since a deal was done from the very beginning ?

    Was that why the NDA’s and no disclosure of the survey results or the proposals ?

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    • Barry455
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2023
      • 147

      #3
      The union has been talking and building for the "biggest strike in US history" for two years and we haven't talked to any other US union about it? I find that hard to believe.

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      • DanaCos
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 992

        #4
        This is a guy who never intended to strike the company if need be in 2013, who now wants to lead us in to the biggest strike in this country's history.

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        • percap2high
          Member
          • Apr 2024
          • 71

          #5
          I can think of four possible reasons not to communicate with our allies in the UPS dispute:

          1) The idea that Teamsters can go it alone and don't need help from other unions.
          2) The skeleton of a deal has been in place for some time and this is a huge gaslighting campaign.
          3) Ego.
          4) Someone forgot to make the calls.

          OK, 1) and 3) are basically the same.

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          • JT67
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2023
            • 243

            #6
            Originally posted by Nickjamesups
            Oh yeah , we are planning the biggest strike in history but we never contacted the AFL-CIO !

            Did you ever get the feeling that the entire “ we are going to strike you !” campaign may have been all an act since a deal was done from the very beginning ?

            Was that why the NDA’s and no disclosure of the survey results or the proposals ?
            If there is a deal done then why isn’t it done?

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            • Magruder
              Magruder commented
              Editing a comment
              How about a late realization that $20 isn't really enough to be considered "best ever" or UPS realized there is a lot of time between July5 and August 1. Just spit-balling here
          • DanaCos
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 992

            #7
            Originally posted by JT67

            If there is a deal done then why isn’t it done?
            Dropping it in the membership"s lap late will more than likely get passed. People get desperate when things are hastily done.

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            • Jazzman
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2023
              • 112

              #8
              If you listen closely to the words of the President of the Communication Workers of America he's speaking for other International Unions as well as his own. There appears to be frustration with the Teamsters in the Labor Movement right now. It should be an easy fix to include probable allies.

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              • Gimme_Danger
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2023
                • 140

                #9

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                • JT67
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 243

                  #10
                  Originally posted by DanaCos

                  Dropping it in the membership"s lap late will more than likely get passed. People get desperate when things are hastily done.
                  I get that, but it it is predetermined, why wouldn’t UPS agree to it by the 5th so it would hurt their product.

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                  • DanaCos
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 992

                    #11
                    Originally posted by JT67

                    I get that, but it it is predetermined, why wouldn’t UPS agree to it by the 5th so it would hurt their product.
                    What's worse.... Dropping it early on the 5th or getting a no vote? Business strategies.

                    In 2013, we (the real Vote No Movement) cost the company millions.

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                    • JT67
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2023
                      • 243

                      #12
                      I hope we know the real story someday. This thing stinks.

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                      • DanaCos
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2023
                        • 992

                        #13
                        Originally posted by JT67
                        I hope we know the real story someday. This thing stinks.
                        Agreed

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                        • Faust
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2023
                          • 909

                          #14
                          Originally posted by DanaCos

                          What's worse.... Dropping it early on the 5th or getting a no vote? Business strategies.

                          In 2013, we (the real Vote No Movement) cost the company millions.
                          But if you ask the O'Brien puppets the Vote NO movement was born in 2018. The Vote No page that was created in 2013 has been erased from history. Its new founding date was 2018, LMFAO!

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                          • DanaCos
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2023
                            • 992

                            #15
                            Originally posted by Faust

                            But if you ask the O'Brien puppets the Vote NO movement was born in 2018. The Vote No page that was created in 2013 has been erased from history. Its new founding date was 2018, LMFAO!
                            I would love to know who really threw me out of that page. I helped build that page to what is now. Shout out to the person who called out Greg Kerwood and dropped my name asking where these people were in '13. Mark Timlin should be ashamed for letting Richard Hooker back in. Wonder if he knew that he was meeting with Bill Hamilton in confidence while he was in Pittsburgh trying to ram that contract down their throats. Remember "You need to vote for this contract or you will get something worse" You know the Vote No or Vote Know Page (whatever) is a toxic dump when Hamilton's sister is there throwing rhetoric jabs at people who really care for their livelihoods. You want to know who that woman is, check TDU. They dedicated a whole article about her.

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