Is O'Brien's fight for $20 to shut down the militant $25 movement?

[Faust]

How many think this ruckus over $20 as starting wage for new part-timers is orchestrated by Sean O'Brien and UPS to fight of the real militant $25 movement?

As we all know TDU has backed off the fight for $25.

With politicians now joining the fight for $20 and the possibility of a strike over such an insulting wage this has to be a setup by O'Brien and his corporate buddies in Atlanta. Joe Biden is probably also helping.

Part-timers, hold the fort and demand your $25. Fuck O'Brien, TDU, Atlanta and Washington! Don't let any of these assholes take away what you deserve, especially the OZholes!

[Mr. Teamster]

Imagine this. All existing employees that are part time and go up to $25 immediately. On top of this catch-up raises and a system that distributes them fairly based on seniority. Then the new employees that have not been hired yet start off at $20 an hour. This would be a contract that people would vote for and they could keep the starting rate at $20 an hour.

[working396]

How many think this ruckus over $20 as starting wage for new part-timers is orchestrated by Sean O'Brien and UPS to fight of the real militant $25 movement?

As we all know TDU has backed off the fight for $25.

With politicians now joining the fight for $20 and the possibility of a strike over such an insulting wage this has to be a setup by O'Brien and his corporate buddies in Atlanta. Joe Biden is probably also helping.

Part-timers, hold the fort and demand your $25. Fuck O'Brien, TDU, Atlanta and Washington! Don't let any of these assholes take away what you deserve, especially the OZholes!

The $25 campaign would sure screw up any handshake deal on $20. They forgot the cardinal rule, you'll never see UPS's best until the very end.

[Thisischange?]

Imagine this. All existing employees that are part time and go up to $25 immediately. On top of this catch-up raises and a system that distributes them fairly based on seniority. Then the new employees that have not been hired yet start off at $20 an hour. This would be a contract that people would vote for and they could keep the starting rate at $20 an hour.

True statement, horrible idea. It very well could happen. Agreeing to this would perpatuate the 2 tier mess that is dividing our membership and the entire labor movement. Leadership would bite on this and sell it. Stop the OZholes 25 or NO FOR EVERYONE. #shortguyssuck.

[Idle]

I'm curious, does anyone care about working conditions? It's always about money of course, but what about OT, sups working, vacation and such?

[Hiway80]

I'm curious, does anyone care about working conditions? It's always about money of course, but what about OT, sups working, vacation and such?

There are supposed to be 54-55 ta's on noneconomic issues. We can't see the real language or even our own proposals but short summaries are available. So yes we care alot but until we see something its rumors.