$25 an hour starting wage for UPS Part timers

[CamiloCienfuegos]

Where I work there has been rumblings of getting $25 an hour starting pay for part timers.

This is a joke right?

A quick Google search about the history of part time pay is all you need to do to see this will never happen no matter who is negotiating the contract, even the great Ron Carey.

Here is the history of part time starting wages at UPS:

1993: Ron Carey negotiates NO increase to the starting wage for part timers as the rate stays at $8 an hour. The same rate it has been since 1982.

1997: Despite what was considered a successful strike, Ron Carey only negotiates a starting wage of $8.50 an hour for part timers, a 50 cent increase even though the starting wage had been $8 an hour for 15 years.

2002: Like Carey, Hoffa/Hall negotiate only a 50 cent increase to starting pay (after 90 days) for part timers as the rate goes to $9 an hour.

2008: Hoffa/Hall negotiate a starting rate of pay for part timers of $10.50 an hour.

2013: Hoffa/Hall negotiate a 50 cent raise for new part timers as the starting rate of pay goes to $11 an hour.

2018: Hoffa/Hall negotiate a $2 increase to the starting rate for part timers as the rate goes to $13 an hour. Over the lifetime of the contract, starting part time wages will rise to $15.50 an hour by 2023.

So in the last 41 years (1982-2023) starting wages for part-timers at UPS have risen from $8 an hour to $15.50, an increase of $7.50.

That’s less than 20 cents an hour that the starting wage for part timers has risen per year over that span.

Now there are folks at my hub saying we are going to get a $10 an hour increase to the starting rate in just one year when it took 41 years to get $7.50 an hour??? GTFOH!!!

O’Brien may be a great negotiator, but nobody is THAT GOOD. There is literally NO CHANCE we get $25 an hour as a starting pay rate and the funny thing is that the people pushing for it on this site are big Ron Carey fans—the same Ron Carey that managed to raise the starting pay rate for part timers at UPS by only 50 cents in 9 years.

WTF are these people smoking?

I agree that Part timers are underpaid and disrespected and deserve a raise, but why blow smoke up our ass?

[Hiway80]

A quick Google search is all you need right? Next time you might want to talk to some Teamsters at your "hub". They might remind you of the twenty thousand full-time jobs created in the nineties.

Your quick google analysis doesn't take inflation, logistics changes, market growth, unemployment or any thing else into consideration.

There's one sure way to not get what your worth and that's to not demand it. Quit talking to your supervisors about the contract and maybe find a Teamster.

[CamiloCienfuegos]

Why didn’t Ron Carey “demand” more than 50 cents for new part timers over the course of a decade? He negotiated two contracts and the starting wage hadn’t gone up since 1982! A 50 cent raise from 1982-1997. What am I not taking into consideration? GTFOH!

Face it, Carey was not as great as people on this site make him out to be. He did NOTHING for new part timers. He put people in charge of our union that illegally funneled money to his reelection campaign. He said he didn’t know but he signed off on it. I don’t know what’s worse, illegally funneling money to your campaign or not knowing where $1,000,000 of members dues money is going when you sign off on it. Pathetic.

I don’t talk to my supervisors about the contract, but I doubt any of them know anything about the history of part time pay anyway. I am taking an active part in this contract campaign but I have no time for bullsh!t. TDU and all the Carey worshippers are just sad that we finally have leaders who are putting part timers front and center after they were ignored for generations by Carey and Hoffa.

[DanaCos]

"O’Brien may be a great negotiator, but nobody is THAT GOOD."

He negotiated the worst contract in UPS history.

[Faust]

"O’Brien may be a great negotiator, but nobody is THAT GOOD."

He negotiated the worst contract in UPS history.

2013 was more concessionary than 2018. How about that failing pension fund waiting for a government bailout?

[Barry455]

Why didn’t Ron Carey “demand” more than 50 cents for new part timers over the course of a decade? He negotiated two contracts and the starting wage hadn’t gone up since 1982! A 50 cent raise from 1982-1997. What am I not taking into consideration? GTFOH!

Face it, Carey was not as great as people on this site make him out to be. He did NOTHING for new part timers. He put people in charge of our union that illegally funneled money to his reelection campaign. He said he didn’t know but he signed off on it. I don’t know what’s worse, illegally funneling money to your campaign or not knowing where $1,000,000 of members dues money is going when you sign off on it. Pathetic.

I don’t talk to my supervisors about the contract, but I doubt any of them know anything about the history of part time pay anyway. I am taking an active part in this contract campaign but I have no time for bullsh!t. TDU and all the Carey worshippers are just sad that we finally have leaders who are putting part timers front and center after they were ignored for generations by Carey and Hoffa.

I thought this thread was about a $25 starting rate.

What' s the matter Camilo is $25 an hour too heavy a lift for the big talking wee man?

[CamiloCienfuegos]

“He negotiated the worst contract in UPS history.”

This is the first contract he is in charge of negotiating.

The worst contract in UPS history has to be the 1993 contract Ron Carey negotiated. Not only did it contain NO RAISE for new part timers even though their rate had remained unchanged for more than a decade but Carey only raised wages for existing UPSers 5 -10 cents an hour compared to 1990.

Why do you guys give Carey a pass on what was clearly such a terrible job of negotiating he did on his first UPS contract?

[CamiloCienfuegos]

”I thought this thread was about a $25 starting rate.

What' s the matter Camilo is $25 an hour too heavy a lift for the big talking wee man?“

A raise for starting part timers to $25 an hour would represent the single greatest feat of negotiating in the history of organized labor. So yes it is too heavy a lift.

[UPS909Strong]

We will never get a 25 starting rate.

[Guest]

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[The Direct Line]

Rank-and-file part-timers are either wearing Teamster Blue, Local 170 or Solidarity Red.