Trump wins because people are sick of all the WOKE nonsense.

[Mr. Teamster]

The majority of the Teamsters members endorsed him.

[Eaglesfan]

ThexTeamsters GEB looks like a bunch of assholes

[DanaCos]

Easy kemosabe. They are pulling ballots out of their asses like in 2020.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/04/politics/pennsylvania-last-minute-mail-in-challenges/index.html

[Koldiww]

Unfortunately, I think you are right. In exchange for venting their frustration with wokeness they traded their wives, daughters, mothers, sisters,grandchildren unions, civil liberties, international status, respect, honor and dignity. If the Republicans control both houses, Right to Work will be up front on the agenda. Union membership will fall by a minimum of 30%, and most probably worse in the Teamsters. O'Brian, although not responsible for the nazi winning, will now be the outcast of the labor community, and Unfortunately the Teamster members will get fucked along with all union members. At the risk of being overly dramatic, the concept of honest, forthright leadership is dead!

[David Brad Bishop]

The majority of the Teamsters members endorsed him.

Just for my education, can you explain what you mean by "woke nonsense"? Like what does that mean to you?

[quotetheraven1031]

It’s not a term that’s even relevant anymore. Boomers talk like that

[Mr. Teamster]

Am I supposed to feel bad for the year I was born? This boomer has more information and experience than all most all the Teamsters here.

[Mr. Teamster]

Unfortunately, I think you are right. In exchange for venting their frustration with wokeness they traded their wives, daughters, mothers, sisters,grandchildren unions, civil liberties, international status, respect, honor and dignity. If the Republicans control both houses, Right to Work will be up front on the agenda. Union membership will fall by a minimum of 30%, and most probably worse in the Teamsters. O'Brian, although not responsible for the nazi winning, will now be the outcast of the labor community, and Unfortunately the Teamster members will get fucked along with all union members. At the risk of being overly dramatic, the concept of honest, forthright leadership is dead!

Romy Rome, everything you’re saying there is true but the majority of our members don’t care about any of that stuff anymore. They’re worried about their checkbook inflation the border.

as I’m very open with criticizing the current IBT leadership, I’m pretty sure the guy at the top recognized that the majority of his members weren’t going to vote for Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. Obviously made a big concerted mistake by pulling and doing all three of those polls but I think we got probably the best ever representation of what our members want. The problem is what our members want is not good for unions but unions are only 8% of this country anymore. I’m afraid that most people will care once they’re gone.

[Mr. Teamster]

Just for my education, can you explain what you mean by "woke nonsense"? Like what does that mean to you?

Do you know what it is. A certain political party pandering to certain agendas and leaving out a very big demographic of voter. And nobody wants to say this and since we are anonymous and nobody really knows who I am here except for Rome I’ll say it. White guys feel like the Democrats are not for them anymore. So they’re choosing Trump. And these are the same people that don’t like really either party but they found a head for their movement.



Let’s have a real discussion here. Since everything’s anonymous, let’s put it out on the table here and use this site for something constructive for a change.

A lot of people here have said that I am a Trumper. I’m not a Trumper. I’m a realist and I’ve been watching for a long time. There’s people guided or what not that feel like the Democratic Party is not all inclusive to them anymore. With the Democratic Party doesn’t realize is that they need those people and they need to find a way to make them feel included.

[David Brad Bishop]

Mr. Teamster, I think you're exactly right. I think you can trace it right back to NAFTA when the dems shafted working people and thousands lost their jobs as a result. I think Kamala lost because she dropped the hardcore populist messaging about fighting big corporations, fighting for working people etc...instead she thought people would care about democracy and reproductive rights. Personally, I think those last two things are incredibly important, but they apparently aren't for many Americans. She did talk about her middle class background, but in the same way that dems have always talked about that stuff. Saying "I'm from Scranton, i'm one of you!" while sidling up next to big corporate donors. But she also talked about how inflation has gone down, which for any normal person, it hasn't. When the cost of groceriences went up 20% in the past two years and it only went up 3% this year, that 3% doesn't mean diddly squat. The Dems as usual, just didn't get it.

But I guess that I take issue about "woke nonsense." If we are being real, boomer white men came of age when they were at the top of the heap and could do or say just about anything without consequence. That's a gross generalization that you can pick apart, but in the broadest sense it's true. Trash on gay people? Sure, why not, what are they gonna do about it? Sexually harrass, or even assault women? Sure because who would believe them, here take a seat on the Supreme Court! Did that black guy have a gun or was he just walking his dog? Who cares, because I'm a cop and the system has my back no matter what.

Unfortunately for us white guys, at the same time that we started losing our good union jobs, the culture started to change and all those groups of people decided they'd had enough. The power dynamic has shifted, and that's a tough pill to swallow when you've spent a lifetime doing and saying shit without anyone ever calling you out on it. All the more so when your world is crumbling around you---credit card bills, taxes, alimony, car payments, car insurance payments....it never ever ends. That is something I know a lot about and it sounds like you might too.

So I get why "all the woke nonesense" is so enraging to white guys (and gals), partiucarly those in the working class. But I don't think the democratic party gets it, because they're run by very wealthy people who care about rich people stuff. I was listening to CNN or whatever on election night and some talking head referred to "the union groups" who get out the vote for dems. That's how they've been treating us for decades...as groups...special interests. Not the REASON they had that blue wall for so many years.

I guess my point is that this is kind of like when you're organizing a shop and the boss pits the white workers against the black or latino workers. It only helps the boss if the white workers focus on keeping the other guys down, rather than joining together to fuck shit up. Right now the Republican party and it's news media has tricked everyone into thinking "wokeness" is the problem, while at the same time destroying unions, passing tax cuts for the rich, passing tarrifs that contribute to double digit inflation...I could go on and on. We need to figure out a way to respect one another and focus on what really matters.

So in a sense, I think focusing on all this "woke nonesense" is bullshit. It doesn't have to be a thing if we just respect other people, let them do their thing even if it's wierd, and join together to fight the people who are actually keeping us down. I'd love to hear your take on that, we probably agree on more than we disagree.

[Eaglesfan]

You people on that GEB are a total disgrace. You all need to go.

[Mr. Teamster]

Mr. Teamster, I think you're exactly right. I think you can trace it right back to NAFTA when the dems shafted working people and thousands lost their jobs as a result. I think Kamala lost because she dropped the hardcore populist messaging about fighting big corporations, fighting for working people etc...instead she thought people would care about democracy and reproductive rights. Personally, I think those last two things are incredibly important, but they apparently aren't for many Americans. She did talk about her middle class background, but in the same way that dems have always talked about that stuff. Saying "I'm from Scranton, i'm one of you!" while sidling up next to big corporate donors. But she also talked about how inflation has gone down, which for any normal person, it hasn't. When the cost of groceriences went up 20% in the past two years and it only went up 3% this year, that 3% doesn't mean diddly squat. The Dems as usual, just didn't get it.

But I guess that I take issue about "woke nonsense." If we are being real, boomer white men came of age when they were at the top of the heap and could do or say just about anything without consequence. That's a gross generalization that you can pick apart, but in the broadest sense it's true. Trash on gay people? Sure, why not, what are they gonna do about it? Sexually harrass, or even assault women? Sure because who would believe them, here take a seat on the Supreme Court! Did that black guy have a gun or was he just walking his dog? Who cares, because I'm a cop and the system has my back no matter what.

Unfortunately for us white guys, at the same time that we started losing our good union jobs, the culture started to change and all those groups of people decided they'd had enough. The power dynamic has shifted, and that's a tough pill to swallow when you've spent a lifetime doing and saying shit without anyone ever calling you out on it. All the more so when your world is crumbling around you---credit card bills, taxes, alimony, car payments, car insurance payments....it never ever ends. That is something I know a lot about and it sounds like you might too.

So I get why "all the woke nonesense" is so enraging to white guys (and gals), partiucarly those in the working class. But I don't think the democratic party gets it, because they're run by very wealthy people who care about rich people stuff. I was listening to CNN or whatever on election night and some talking head referred to "the union groups" who get out the vote for dems. That's how they've been treating us for decades...as groups...special interests. Not the REASON they had that blue wall for so many years.

I guess my point is that this is kind of like when you're organizing a shop and the boss pits the white workers against the black or latino workers. It only helps the boss if the white workers focus on keeping the other guys down, rather than joining together to fuck shit up. Right now the Republican party and it's news media has tricked everyone into thinking "wokeness" is the problem, while at the same time destroying unions, passing tax cuts for the rich, passing tarrifs that contribute to double digit inflation...I could go on and on. We need to figure out a way to respect one another and focus on what really matters.

So in a sense, I think focusing on all this "woke nonesense" is bullshit. It doesn't have to be a thing if we just respect other people, let them do their thing even if it's wierd, and join together to fight the people who are actually keeping us down. I'd love to hear your take on that, we probably agree on more than we disagree.

The Democratic Party is now the party of LGBTQ, women, black women, minorities from Asia. Hispanic males, white males and black males weren’t for Harris. They don’t the democrats are about them. Not my idea, a lot of people’s opinion.

[jm481]

Is this a Sean O'Brien burner account?

[Graveyard]

The Democratic Party is now the party of LGBTQ, women, black women, minorities from Asia. Hispanic males, white males and black males weren’t for Harris. They don’t the democrats are about them. Not my idea, a lot of people’s opinion.

You have aways sounded like a Trumper, hate anyone that’s not exactly like or think like you. According to you, the only answer was the installation of the first American King!

You must be proud of the Kings unions/workers dismal track record, twice impeached, liable for sexual abuse, $5M-then $85M, lied more than 30,000 times, made at least 40 separate false claims in two Pennsylvania speeches, (October 10, 2024) and let us not forget Stormy Daniels.

I am sure the King will be a great role model for all your children. Daddy, can I grab Mary’s Pu**y and then bang her up against the wall?

When you buy a used car you get the shinny bumpers, great shift knob, fuzzy dice and new Walmart floormats. You also get bald tires, leaky radiator, trans that won’t shift into high gear and moldy 4 year old French Fries in the glove box.

The only question now is, how many times in the next 4-8-12 years-lifetime will we have to say “Told you so” as the king attacks unions/workers, democracy, other rights?

[Mr. Teamster]

You have aways sounded like a Trumper, hate anyone that’s not exactly like or think like you. According to you, the only answer was the installation of the first American King!

You must be proud of the Kings unions/workers dismal track record, twice impeached, liable for sexual abuse, $5M-then $85M, lied more than 30,000 times, made at least 40 separate false claims in two Pennsylvania speeches, (October 10, 2024) and let us not forget Stormy Daniels.

I am sure the King will be a great role model for all your children. Daddy, can I grab Mary’s Pu**y and then bang her up against the wall?

When you buy a used car you get the shinny bumpers, great shift knob, fuzzy dice and new Walmart floormats. You also get bald tires, leaky radiator, trans that won’t shift into high gear and moldy 4 year old French Fries in the glove box.

The only question now is, how many times in the next 4-8-12 years-lifetime will we have to say “Told you so” as the king attacks unions/workers, democracy, other rights?

Not proud of Trump in any way. Just call them like I see them. When I retire, I am getting the fuck out of California. The democrats suck. Do you live here? Sometimes you have to look at how others must feel. I have heard all the stories but the democrats left a certain demographic behind. We all know which demographic it is. Nobody can say it though. Because they will be called racist. The Democrats aren’t smart enough to be all inclusive. Latino and white males are bolting from the party. You all can sit here and feel sorry for yourself or tell the democrats how to fix it.

[Nickjamesups]

Got to tell you ,you sure talk a lot about the west and California…………????????

[DanaCos]

Trump will definitely fix the fleeing Corps to overseas countries. He already promised to add tariffs to imports and eliminate the income tax. In theory this will force manufacturing to produce here in the US.

[David Brad Bishop]

Trump will definitely fix the fleeing Corps to overseas countries. He already promised to add tariffs to imports and eliminate the income tax. In theory this will force manufacturing to produce here in the US.

You're fooling yourself if you think imposing tarrifs will force manufacturing to return here. First they'll reroute their operations outside of China, many companies are already reshoring to other countries. If that doesn't work, they'll just eat the cost of the tarrifs and pass it on to consumers. There's a good quote in this article by a CEO of a toy company, the guy says

“We can’t just start making Barbie dolls and Tonka trucks and Care Bears in the U.S...Not overnight, not in the next 12 months, and frankly speaking, never.”

The average CEO or corporate board would not make a decision that destroys all profitablity for their company, and that's exactly what would happen if companies had to operate in the US. What they will do is increase prices and accept that they'll be selling less product. Either way, prices for the average consumer will increase and we won't get more jobs.

I'm also not saying any of this is good. But it's the reality of the world we live in. Americans want Walmarts filled with endless rows of cheap toys and appliances and clothes, they've been conditioned at this point this think that stuff should be priced the way it is...but it's priced the way it is because we're exploiting fellow workers overseas.