Union Busting at the IBT

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  • Ibtlu710
    Member
    • Sep 2023
    • 22

    #16
    I would like to know who made the official decision to “not recognize” them? Was it SOB, the organizing department, the GEB, other?

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    • Wiggy
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      someone unelected with the approval of someone elected

    • TheMilitantTeamster
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      Has to come from the top
  • Tony R Cochran
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2024
    • 171

    #17
    Dear Forum Members,

    I wanted to share my personal journey through various labor organizations, shedding light on the crucial role union representation plays in protecting the rights and interests of workers.

    At the age of 19, I enrolled in the SEIU Wave Program and later pursued education at the National Labor College. My career involved working as an Organizer-in-Training with SEIU International, progressing to become an Organizer with SEIU Local 503. Subsequently, I joined Unite HERE as a Boycott Coordinator and LGBTQ-Labor Liaison, followed by roles with AFSCME International and Local 3299.

    While my experience wasn't always perfect, having union representation was vital. In the case of Unite HERE, challenges arose due to internal conflicts as the "Unite" side was being taken over by SEIU, causing disillusionment. However, throughout all my roles, union representation was essential.

    Working conditions were often demanding, with weeks stretching to 60-70 hours. At Unite HERE, I faced the worst conditions, earning approximately $39,000 annually with expectations of a minimum 50-hour workweek. Union organizers, like all other workers, rely on unions to safeguard their interests and ensure fair treatment.

    It's crucial to dispel misconceptions, such as the notion that being a member of two unions is problematic. Drawing from my experience at SEIU Local 503, members who served as organizers seamlessly transitioned between bargaining units when they returned from leave. The argument presented by the IBT, suggesting that union membership somehow diminishes the nature of employment, is unfounded and absurd; furthermore, the IBT essentially asserts that their workers are considered members and not employees; this is both unfounded and absurd. It is perplexing to suggest that union membership alters the fundamental nature of employment.

    In summary, my journey underscores the importance of union representation for workers. It is a cornerstone for protecting rights, advocating for fair conditions, and fostering a supportive work environment. Let's continue to champion the significance of unions in the labor landscape.

    Solidarity,

    Tony Cochran

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    • Gimme_Danger
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2023
      • 117

      #18
      Originally posted by BurnedbyO'Brien
      What makes the organizers Teamsters? What makes BAs, Office staff, titan operators or any other person that works in the locals without a contract a Teamster? Is it the fact that someone works for the organization that makes them a Teamster? Does paying dues make someone a Teamster? Is someone on layoff status from a Teamster position still considered a Teamster?
      Following that logic, what makes an elected PO, full time officer or BA, working without a contract, a Teamster? What makes any GP in our union history a Teamster? Elected reps have the IBT Constitution for due process, Article 19. In my limited experience, I haven't seen any examples of Teamster reps/organizers (not elected) who have their own bargaining unit. There are bylaw provisions that reference office staff forming their own bargaining unit, usually in an election transition.

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      • BurnedbyO'Brien
        Member
        • Jan 2023
        • 77

        #19
        Originally posted by Gimme_Danger

        Following that logic, what makes an elected PO, full time officer or BA, working without a contract, a Teamster? What makes any GP in our union history a Teamster? Elected reps have the IBT Constitution for due process, Article 19. In my limited experience, I haven't seen any examples of Teamster reps/organizers (not elected) who have their own bargaining unit. There are bylaw provisions that reference office staff forming their own bargaining unit, usually in an election transition.
        You didn't answer the question either.

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        • WTF891
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2024
          • 282

          #20
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          The irony of this all is that the current Organizing Director was one of the two organizers to file this charge. Practice what you preach!

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          • UPS909Strong
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2023
            • 249

            #21
            The problem lies with the fact that most of the organizers hired at the IBT have never been Teamsters. They are young kids out of college. How about hiring the Organizers from within the Teamsters ranks instead. If an Organizer doesn't cut it, then they can be sent back to their barn. Stop hiring outsiders

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            • TheMilitantTeamster
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              A mix is good

            • WTF891
              WTF891 commented
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              There are plenty of rank and filers working there.
          • WTF891
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2024
            • 282

            #22
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            This is what happened when the Union Busters tried this last time.

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            • Opus Dei
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2023
              • 126

              #23
              Originally posted by UPS909Strong
              The problem lies with the fact that most of the organizers hired at the IBT have never been Teamsters. They are young kids out of college. How about hiring the Organizers from within the Teamsters ranks instead. If an Organizer doesn't cut it, then they can be sent back to their barn. Stop hiring outsiders
              i agree, we saw how hiring from the outside worked out. Remember what happened with Farmer, hired from the SEIU. Only thing he didn't get is using the drums during rallies and protest but he brought his failed ideas, hired people off the street. I remember this woman they hired, as soon as she got an offer of more money she went union busting. Her last name was Fargoso from Bakersfield.

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              • quotetheraven1031
                Member
                • Mar 2024
                • 26

                #24
                Originally posted by WTF891
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                So the hit parade continues at the IBT. They refused to recognize a majority of the organizers and responded with this bullshit letter. The union busting is now going at warp speed. Maybe they can hire Nixon Peabody to help them with their union busting attempts. Chris Rozwell has lot's of experience in this already. Our new attorney has proven to be a tool for the OZholes as well. You can't make this shit up!
                The vote count indicates they didn’t have majority. Never did after all the side stepping that went nowhere and proved it.

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                • RandyAtwood
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                  Organizers are workers and workers lie all time.
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